Moss Garage & More

Here is another Comberbach memory for you – when there were two garages in the village. The garage on the Moss. I seem to remember it was run by a Polish chap called Louis or something like that. But before that, I have a vague recollection it was someone called Gee or something like that. I remember I bought my first car there – a 1958 model Standard 8. This location has been a couple of houses for many years now.  Best regards, Ian Iosson


I also remember the Garage on the Moss it was called Smithy Garage at it had been a smithy in previous times, I still remember the forge but not in use. Ian is correct it was owned by a Polish man I can not remember his name but I do remember he won the football pools a couple of times. His mechanic was called Paul Simms. The garage was next Fords shop which I think was also the post office. Regards, Peter Frank


I was browsing the Comberbach site, specifically the pictures & comments by Ian Iosson and Peter Frank. (I remember that Peter’s father (?) ran a small garden nursery on the Marbury estate). Anyway, I can fill in some of the questions raised re The Moss (Smithy) garage etc. as my father ran the adjacent general store (not post office!) from 1954 to 1972. The old garage was pulled down shortly after we arrived in Comberbach and a new one built, being financed by Louis (Polish) who had won, as Peter says, a sizable amount on the pools. Louis’s brother John was the principle and (excellent) mechanic of the ‘old school’. Louis, not being a mechanic, concentrated on car sales; the garage having a Skoda franchise.

Peter mentioned Paul Simms who was a member of the Simms’s family who lived in a cottage at the rear of the garage, down the RH side and to the right. My father said that old Mrs Simms used to walk across the field at the back, between her house & Dog Kennel Wood, at least once a year, to keep the footpath open! (Tom Woodcock’s land).

When I lived in Comberbach there were 4 shops, ours, Millie’s hut (sold sweets & knick knacks -positioned on the corner of Marbury Road & Senna Lane), Wyatt’s (Marbury Road, LH side heading towards the Spinner & Bergamot pub) they had the newspaper round, and the existing post office on Senna Lane.

As I was in the Scouts at Comberbach (we used an old WW II mission hut positioned at the Comberbach end of the Marbury Estate), I remember Tom Holland very well. A smashing chap, being a PR manager for ICI down at Winnington works.   I won’t bore you with any more other than one other little anecdote: As a young boy (13+) friends and I used to play, quite often, around Marbury estate, where sometimes we would knock on the kitchen windows of the old hall and the Polish cooks would usually give us some pie or cake as a treat!

Incidentally, I haven’t seen any mention of Belmont Hall Private Grammar School for boys, run by Mr & Mrs Fletcher! Hope this helps. Regards, Robin Ford


I am reliably informed that the owner of the garage was a Lewis Pisrag (a ‘Russian Pole’) who ran it with his brother John. The mechanic was Peter Symms who lived in the bungalow in the Moss (behind the houses that now stand where the garage was). His brother lives there now. Regards, Steve Howard


Family History Help!

I have recently returned to Australia from a holiday in the UK where I did a bit of delving into my family history.

As it transpires, my Grandmother (Elizabeth Davies) was born and raised in Comberbach in the early 1900s/late 1800s.  I understand from family members here in Australia that her father was the gardener at the ‘Manor House’.  This I believe was probably what is now known as Comberbach Hall…. and the gardens are still quite beautiful!
 
My Grandfather (Walter Alfred Tindall) was a New Zealander living in Western Australia at the time the Great War broke out.  He enlisted and shipped out from the Port of Albany (in south-west Western Australia) and went on to fight for the Australian Imperial Force in Africa, Turkey (Gallipoli) and France during the Great War.  He was wounded in France to the extent that he was transferred and hospitalised in England.  It was during this stay that he met his wife-to-be (Elizabeth Davies), who was working as a Red Cross nurse at the time.  The two later moved back to Western Australia where they lived in Bunbury (yes, we have one too!) before settling in Perth.  My mother (Dorothy Rosemary Tindall) was the youngest daughter of the family of three and was born in Bunbury, WA.

It seems likely that there may be some local knowledge or historical records relating to my Grandmother (Elizabeth Davies), but I am unsure where to start my search.  I think it likely that the family would have been known to the parishioner at Great Budworth (St Mary’s, Church of England).

I would appreciate any leads or contact details you may be able to provide which would my search.

Kind regards
Geoff Bott
geoff.bott@endemic.net.au


Response from our local historian: Lyn McCulloch

Dear Geoff
In the 1911 census, there is a Davies Family in Cogshall which is adjoining Comberbach. They seem to be living in Cogshall Hall as there are 16 rooms in the house and he is described as Head Gardener. He is Richard Davies born Shropshire and his wife Hannah, 52 was born at Sevenoaks, again near Comberbach. They have three surviving children out of seven – Elizabeth 20, Housemaid, Elsie Annie 15, at home, both born Whitley, another nearby village and William Ashton 15, who assists his Father with the gardening. Hope this is of interest and I can go further back in time if you wish.

Drum & Monkey

Drum & Monkey – Heritage Appraisal
August 2013

A heritage appraisal carried out by Kathryn Sather & Associates Heritage Conservation Consultants on behalf of the new owners prior to conversion back to a residential property.
File size PDF (3.2MB).

Death of Marbury Hall

Marbury Hall
Adobe-PDFA featured article from Cheshire Life (1969) about the demise of Marbury Hall and its last inhabitants. Kindly sent to us by Ian Iosson, it makes fascinating reading. It can be viewed in PDF (1MB) by clicking on the image right.

Paradise Preserved

Great Budworth

A featured article from Cheshire Life (1968) about some of the characters living in the village of Great Budworth.  Kindly sent to us by Ian Iosson, it makes a fascinating read. It can be viewed in PDF (4.3MB) by clicking on the image right.

One-Place Study

Where family history and local history unite.
 
Lyn McCulloch has registered a One Place Study for Comberbach and advised the village Heritage Group that it’s for us all to contribute to.  Lyn tells us that Comberbach is leading Cheshire by being the first community to register with this new world-wide society.
 
Whilst networking with other family historians the originators of this new website realised that there was an increasing interest in the study of particular streets, villages and other specific areas and that the time was right to further consider the notion of forming a society. Discussions swiftly developed from ideas into a concept and led to a team of enthusiastic, diligent individuals coming together to create the Society for One-Place Studies.
 
Set up as a not-for-profit organisation, the Society was launched in September 2013 with a new website building on the experience and expertise of those involved in promoting one-place studies, thus laying the foundations for a society that will support and encourage those engaged in this particular form of research.
 

The War Memorial

Our Fallen Heroes 1914-1918
[comments and corrections are welcome]

CHARLES VICTOR BLAIN
Died, age 29, on 3rd September 1916 on the Somme.
Served in the 1st Battalion Cheshire Regiment.
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Buried in Flatiron Copse Cemetery, Mametz, France
Grave: V111 C5
Son of Annie Butterworth and the late Charles Blain.

Charles was the fifth child of Charles and Annie Blain’s nine children.
The family lived in Navigation Road, Castle, and Northwich in 1891.
Charles Blain Sen. was a Stonemason. By 1901 the family was in Boundary Lane, Lostock Gralam and young Charles was an Ironmonger’s Assistant. His Father died in 1898 and Annie married James Edward Butterworth in 1899. James Butterworth was a Clerk at the Chemical Works.
By 1911 Charles Victor was already in the Cheshire Regiment and was stationed at Chester Castle.

HERBERT HARTLEY
Died, aged 18, on 18th April 1918 on the Somme.
Served in the 1st Battalion King’s Liverpool Regiment.
Service number: 96515.
Buried in Gezaincourt Communal Cemetery Extension, France
Grave: 11 L1
Son of Mrs Priscilla Hartley (nee Keen) of Poplar View, Comberbach

Priscilla Keen was the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Keen. The Keen family was an old Comberbach family. She married William Hartley, born in Antrobus and he died in 1909 aged 34.
They had eight children of whom six survived. Priscilla also cared for her brother Herbert Keen who by 1911 is described as an ‘invalid, formerly Alkali Labourer’.

PETER MADDOCK
Died, aged 35, on 29th October 1916 in Serbia
Served in the 12th Battalion, Cheshire Regiment.
Rank: Private.
Service number: 13190
Buried in Karasouli Military Cemetery, Greece
Grave: A 121

Peter was the son of Hannah E. Maddock and her late husband, Thomas E. Maddock. In 1911 Peter was a Railway Porter, living with his widowed Mother, in Senna Lane, Comberbach. She worked part-time as a General Servant. In 1891 his Father, Thomas Maddock was a Gardener’s Labourer.
In 1901 Hannah was a widow and Peter, aged 15, was a Coal Carter. By the time he enlisted, in 1914 he was a Shunter.

JOHN GILES BRAMHALL
Died, aged 24, on 1st August 1917, at Bellewaarde Ridge, Flanders
Served in the 14th Cheshire Regiment
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service number: 36583
Commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial

John Giles Bramhall was the son of Robert and Sarah Bramhall. In 1911 the family were living in the School House in Comberbach. John was born in Great Budworth and was a Domestic Gardener.
Shortly before being sent to France, in 1916, he had married Mary Alice Beswick and they then lived in Hartford at Pulcree, Chester Road, in the house of a Mrs Moreton. Robert and Sarah had also moved to Hartford by then, to Heyesmere Cottage. John suffered from shell shock but was sent back to fight again. He was killed in the third Battle of Ypres at the Bellewaarde Ridge. His widow, Alice Mary Bramhall later married again in Staffordshire and had a daughter, Joan Taylor, in 1924.

WILLIAM MILLINGTON
Died of wounds, aged 22, on the 5th August 1915, in Flanders.
Served in the 8th Battalion, Rifle Brigade
Rank: Rifleman
Service number:
Commemorated on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial

William Millington was the son of Joseph and Eliza Millington of Comberbach. In 1901 they lived at Holly Cottage, Senna Lane and Joseph was a Farmer. By 1911 he is a Farm Bailiff. William enlisted in 1914 when he was 21 and died of wounds 10 months later. His war record includes a list of personal effects. In 1919 his brother Joseph was living in Cogshall Lane and his sister Mrs Mary Robinson, on Marbury Lane (ie Marbury Road).

JOHN CYRIL RIGBY
Died aged 19, on 22nd March 1918 on the Somme.
Served in the 58th Battalion, Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Rank: Private
Service number: 116095
Commemorated on Pozieres Memorial (Panel 90-93)
Son of Thomas and Kate Rigby.

John Cyril was born at Bradley, near Frodsham. In 1901 his Father, Thomas, was a Farmer but by 1911 the family were living at Holly Bank, Comberbach and Thomas was a Clerk at a chemical works. His residence is given as Warrington in his army records.

JOHN WILLIAM TURNER
Died aged 23, on 19th August 1917 on the Somme
Served in the 15th Battalion Cheshire Regiment
Rank: Private
Service number: 14734
Commemorated at Thiepval (pier & face 3c & 4a)
Son of Peter and Mary Turner of Comberbach.

Peter Turner was a Chemical Labourer and had been born in Comberbach. Mary was from Whitley. They had nine children, one of whom had died by 1911. By then their son, John William was 17 and working as a Farm Labourer, like his brother, Peter Turner.

JAMES HENRY HULME
James enlisted in London on July 26th 1915, aged 20. He was a Farmer and seems to have gone to Canada, only to return to join up. He was the son of George Reddish Hulme and his wife, Hannah, who was born in Comberbach. George was born in Minshull Vernon and was probably not related to the Walter Hulme (born in Great Budworth) who was the Blacksmith in Comberbach. George was a Carter at the chemical works. By 1911 James Henry Hulme was working at a farm in Whitley, run by Thomas Antwis, as a Milk Boy.

RICHARD HENRY MADDOCK
Died, aged 29, on 21st May 1916 in Mesopotamia.
Served in the 8th Battalion, Cheshire Regiment.
Rank: Private.
Service number: 24208
Buried in Amara War Cemetery Part II, Iraq
Grave: XXII E 1
Husband of Fanny Maddock.

Richard Henry Maddock married Fanny (nee Gibbons) in 1908. She was born in Middlewich.
In 1911 they were living at Gibb Hill Cottage with their two-year-old son, Fred. Richard was a Groom and Domestic Gardener. He was born in Crow Nest Lane, Comberbach, to Arthur and Mary Maddock. They had a large family of nine children.

JOSEPH M. RADCLIFFE
Died, aged 25, on 19th June 1917 in Flanders
Served in the 1st Battalion Monmouthshire Regiment (Territorial Force)
Rank: Rifleman
Service number: 226914 (4549)
Buried in Loos British Cemetery.
Grave number: XIXc9
Husband of Elsie Radcliffe.

Joseph was born in Northwich, the son of John and Mary Ann Ratcliffe. In 1901, they lived at 6 Oak Street, Northwich. He married Elsie Whitby of Comberbach in 1914, and they had two daughters, Gladys (b.1915) and Margaret (b. 1916). After his death, Elsie went on to marry John Robinson in 1919; they lived in a cottage on the Moss (now demolished) and had five children: John, Thomas (who died in WWII and whose name also appears on the War Memorial), Arthur, Rene and George Robinson.

BERTIE CHARLES SUTTON
Died 1929, possibly as a result of a medical condition exacerbated by war service.
Served in the 9th South Lancs Regiment
Rank: Lance Corporal, Private
Service number: 13471
Served in France.
Discharged: 17th January 1917

Bertie Charles Sutton was the son of George Thomas Sutton and his wife, Florence nee Pennels. He was born in 1893 in Woodnesborough, Kent. The family moved to Cheshire when George Thomas Sutton was working as a Butler to the Brunner Family at Belmont Hall. Roscoe Brunner and his wife Ethel rented Belmont from 1906 until 1925. Bertie married Lily Whittaker in 1922. He died on February 9th 1929 and was buried at Great Budworth. His widow later married Fred Webster and had a daughter Denise C Webster who married Peter A. Stanway in 1957.

History

The meaning of Comberbach is the ‘Valley of the Sparkling Stream’, and was part of the Manor of Arley; which belonged to the Warburton Family.

“Cheshire Charter of 1180″….
In an early Cheshire Charter of 1180, the land was granted to ‘The Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem’ by ‘John The Constable’. It was previously held by William, Clerk of Comberbach.

‘John The Constable’ died in Palestine in 1190 and Gilbert Brito granted land in Comberbach to Adam de Dutton who was an ancestor of the Warburtons. Adam de Dutton died in about 1205.

“Bagshaw’s Directory” ….
In Bagshaw’s Directory of 1850, he says … ‘ the Manor of Comberbach was given by John de Lacy to Adam Dutton. Adam gave half of the estate to Norton Priory ‘ .

“Knights of St. John” ….
After the Dissolution of the Monasteries, these lands were granted to John Grimsditch who sold most of them to Robert Eaton. The other half was given to ‘The Knights of St. John’, on condition that it was held by the Comberbach Family.

“Comberbach Hall” ….
On Friday 8th July 1932 much of the Marbury Estate which consisted of several houses, many cottages in the village and a large amount of land ( Ivy Lodge Farm included ) was sold at auction. It eventually came into the hands of several landowners, the principal ones being:

  • J.H.S.Barry Esq. Mr William Eaton, Mrs Catherine Nanfan
  • Peter Jackson Esq. and the Lord of the Manor, Mr Warburton.

House renamed Manor Cottage

Comberbach Hall [now renamed Manor Cottage] – Private Dwelling.

The old village school Log Book can be viewed at Chester Record Office. ‘Lady Mary Smith-Barry’ of Marbury Hall took a personal interest in the pupils, entertaining them at The Hall and visiting the school.

Local Historian & Genealogist – Lyn McCulloch
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